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Firearm instructor prepares to educate officers on open carry


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Reported by: Dontaye Carter
Updated: 10/19/2012 9:16 am Published: 10/18/2012 8:59 pm


In two weeks the open carry law takes effect.

Gun training classes have been filling up and in some cases doubling their normal size.

One Bixby police officer says more education is needed, even for law enforcement. 

"This is a shift in culture,” said Bixby police officer Michael Konshak. “Now we're going to have guns out in the open."

Konshak has been in law enforcement nearly 22 years. He's a firearm instructor certified by the Council on Law Enforcement Education and Training. Konshak is worried there hasn't been enough talk about this law.

"I don't have any fear,” he told FOX23. “I just am concerned that everybody gets educated that needs to be educated."

He will be teaching police officers across the state.

"When the open carry thing goes into effect, obviously the law enforcement officer will know the person is carrying out in the open. As a law enforcement personnel we can go up and ask them to prove their credentials, "show us your license to carry the gun," said Konshak.

But it gets tricky; Oklahoma law says law enforcement must honor the gun laws of Alaska, Wyoming, Vermont and Arizona. Those states don't issue gun licenses. Anyone from those states caught in Oklahoma must have a state I.D. or driver's license.

"It is counter intuitive to encounter someone with a gun, from another state when they don't have a license," he said.

Konshak told FOX23 that will be a challenge for law enforcement. He adds his biggest concern is making sure everyone is informed.

"the public, the people that are going to be seen carrying these guns out in the open, the officers, there needs to be a lot of training awareness and preparation before this goes into effect in just a few days," he said.

Konshak will be hosting that class for law enforcement on October 29th at the Bixby Police Department. It begins at 9 am.

If you plan to carry openly your gun must remain in a holster that is partially visible.  
The gun cannot be any longer than 16 inches.

You'll also need to carry a valid Oklahoma ID and a handgun license at all times.

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milw66 - 10/19/2012 6:59 AM
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This post by Okiebryan is exactly correct, in my opinion. Unfortunately, one of the biggest challenges for the Oklahoma law enforcement community is the fact that the new "open carry" update is ambiguous in places, and downright contradictory in others. Much of it is left to interpretation. Recently, I attended a class that covered the open carry update to some extent. The hosting organization, Oklahoma Municipal Assurance Group's (OMAG) course was brief and the attendees had more questions than there were answers for. From the beginning of the class the instructor, Kevin McCullough, advised us of some of the more egregious conflicts in the law. For example, we were taught in this class that when responding to a "man with a gun" call officers can challenge the armed person to prove they have a license to carry a gun. Once the person proves they have a valid gun carry license, and absent any other criminal activity, law enforcement personnel cannot detain the person further. I addressed this issue in the Fox 23 interview on 10/18/2012, but the full conversation didn't make it to the segment that was aired. As expected, feedback is plentiful and somewhat inflammatory. What I was saying is that when law enforcement personnel are responding to calls about armed people in view of the public, all they can do is challenge the armed person to prove they're properly licensed, and that we cannot detain them further once proof of a valid gun carry license has been established. Then there's the issue of the four states that do not require permits for gun carry, concealed or open. Oklahoma L.E. personnel must honor the laws of those states (Vermont, Wyoming, Alaska, and Arizona) when proof of residency has been confirmed. All in all, the open carry change in the Self Defense Act is going to be a tough proposition from a law enforcement perspective. Everyone needs to understand that law enforcement personnel have been given almost no direction from the state on this update. We w

Okiebryan - 10/18/2012 10:07 PM
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The police need to know that by itself, carrying a visible holstered handgun is NOT reasonable articulable suspicion of criminal activity. They also need to know that the FBI's 2006 study "Violent Encounters", showed that criminals don't open carry and they don't use holsters. If you want to know more about open carry, please visit Oklahoma Open Carry Association at www.okoca.org
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