Some Cherokee Nation members divided on Baby Veronica


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Reported by: Sara Whaley
Updated: 8/15/2013 10:46 am Published: 8/14/2013 7:56 pm


FOX23 wanted to get Dusten Brown's response to Wednesday's news conference, so FOX23's Sara Whaley went to Tahlequah, where the Cherokee Nation is located.

Whaley went to at least 10 different places looking for Brown. FOX23 even tracked down his lawyer, but couldn't find Brown or Veronica. 

What FOX23 did find was people in Tahlequah who were divided on the issue.

Based on tips, FOX23 went to a hotel, then restaurants and stores. Brown was nowhere to be found, but people did know who we were talking about. 

When asked if they knew where Brown was, people gave nearly the same answer every time.

One person said, "No, no and good luck." 

Another "Oh, absolutely not." 

FOX23 went straight to the source, the tribal headquarters, and tried to talk to the chief. He declined an interview, but did e-mail a statement. 

Unfortunately it had nothing to with the whereabouts of Brown, although FOX23 did learn the Cherokee Nation will continue to fight for what it says is right.

"The Cherokee people throughout our time have stood our ground and for the rights of our people", Chief Baker said. "This is no different." 

FOX23 also caught up with Gary Wilkes, a member of the Cherokee Nation who agrees with Baker.

“I think he has the right to have that child,” he said. “She needs to be right here in Oklahoma, where her family, her Cherokee family is." 

Others we talked to aren't so sure, though.

"The adoptive parents, they have love for her. They had the concern to take her, to support her and love her,” Veronica Cavanaugh said.

"I believe both parties should come to an agreement where they have joint custody," yet another member told FOX23.

Baker said Brown has every right to have his arguments heard in Oklahoma before following South Carolina's court order. He's asking for the Capobiancos to allow that due process.


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MamaLove - 8/20/2013 10:24 AM
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Veronica is a multiracial child. She has the right to honor her full heritage. Facebook.com/saveveronica Saveveronica.org

culchiewoman - 8/16/2013 6:46 PM
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Sybill1, you couldn't be more wrong. There is an ocean of difference between an 'adoption placement' and 'adoption finalization' (a legal decree being issued). The Capobiancos are not Veronica's parents. Wanting and wishing does not make it so. This little girl is where she belongs and if this couple had a shred of human decency, they'd let her be. Instead they march into OK with the notorious and clearly biased Troy Dunn, stirring up a media storm. As an adopted adult, trafficked from Ireland, and a mother of loss in a forced, coerced Catholic adoption in PA, I can tell you I've seen far too much of the dirty underbelly of the adoption industry. This is just the tip of the iceberg, but nonetheless makes me sick to my stomach. I stand with her father Dusten and the CN.

collectorswife - 8/16/2013 6:16 PM
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SCOTUS did NOT say going back to them was in her best interest. They said they would not rule. Have it back to the state. The state did NOT have a nest intrest hearing. The only one they had was when Veronica was younger, &they ruled it was in her best interest to go with Dusten, who has been caring for her the last ywo years. Legally pulling deciding these are her parents doesnt make it right. Sje has bonded to hum. Sje is so young, even if she remembered them, she is no longer used to them. They knew at 4months old what a mess this was. The problems between a man &woman should not reflect on their ability to parent. He made it clear he he wanted her, her got her. &has bonded to her. AND even if not...she IS CN, they completely bypassed the CN.There is a darn good reason the ICWA came to be law. Think of that. Everyone is emotional, but is anyone on that side thinking clearly? All this money rolling out could be going to help a child that has NO family, &no one to care, or figjt for them instead of throwing it away on lawyers&PR people. BTW..what they heck id the guy who helps locate&reunite adult adoptees with their family doing on the case with the people looking to divide the family in the first plave? Three ring Circus much??

mermaidmarian - 8/15/2013 6:27 PM
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@SmokinOkie - whether or not Brown relinquished his parental rights does not severe the relationship of the child with the Cherokee Nation nor does it undermine the absolute authority of the Cherokee Nation to approve or disapprove of any foster or adoptive placement of the child, as set forth in the Indian Child Welfare Act. All of the party participants in this case have known since Day 1 that the child's natural father was a member of the Cherokee Nation and that the rules and requirements under ICWA had to be followed. They failed to do so, sought to circumvent that law and should not be rewarded for doing so.

kotetotah - 8/15/2013 4:45 PM
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Veronica's LEGAL parents are the Capo's? Veronica LEGALLY belonged to Dusten & GF. He signed papers giving the GF custody, NOT giving his child to some stranger. Veronica was PLACED, not legally adopted by this couple. A few DAYS after signing, Brown changed his mind as is legally allowed in all adoption cases regardless of state. He fought for 2 years to get custody of his child. The Capo's refused to allow him or his family to see his child. They fight through family court & SC supreme court both of which ruled he was NOT an unfit parent & deserved to have custody of his child, ICWA added support for his case. Now Veronica LEGALLY belongs to Dusten. The Capo's fight 2 more years to get her back. SCOTUS did not terminate Brown's parental rights; they sent the case back to SC for further review. SC did not review the case; they simply reversed their decision & expedited the adoption process without allowing a best interest of the child hearing which is mandatory in all adoption cases. In SC she "legally" belongs to the Capo's again. But in OK she LEGALLY belongs to Brown. What is forgotten is that she is a citizen of the Cherokee Nation & a legal resident of OK. The Capo's are refusing to allow due process in OK & in Cherokee courts. Brown deserves to have his day in court just like the Capo's did. He is providing a loving, safe home for HIS child with her family and Cherokee Nation. What the Capo's did from day 1 was manipulate the laws & the media to get their way. If they want to lay kidnapping charges, they kidnapped her first. Its funny that everyone insists Brown just obey the law & give up his daughter; but the Capo's aren't advised to just obey the law & give up-they're encouraged to continue fighting for the return of a child that is healthy & happy with her biological family. Are they really out for Veronica's best interst? You tell Brown to give his daughter up if he really loves her. Why don't the Capo's give her up if they really love her?

SmokinOkie - 8/15/2013 4:04 PM
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Hey Tgarrison, the courts did exactly what Mr. Brown wanted. He signed away his parental rights and did not want the child. The courts honored that. Your argument is factless and overlooks the part where Mr. Brown said he wanted nothing to do with her. Then after almost three years of her life he feels embarrassed and now wants the courts of the USA to let him change his mind without regard to the emotional distress he is inflicting on his own flesh and blood. I don't think so.

lorieve - 8/15/2013 2:03 PM
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Sybill asked what the Lord would want done. Well His word is clear that he prefers children to be raises by family in the case of adoption. Moses was nursed by his mother and knew his siblings Aaron and Miriam. Likewise, Esther was raised by hee Uncle Mordecai. The Word says to care for orphans and widows and other needy people. From what I can tell Veronica Brown is none of those things. The church has n been co-opted by the 13 billion $ adoption industry thinking there is a spiritual imperative to adopt. There is not. Read your bible.

lorieve - 8/15/2013 2:03 PM
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Sybill asked what the Lord would want done. Well His word is clear that he prefers children to be raises by family in the case of adoption. Moses was nursed by his mother and knew his siblings Aaron and Miriam. Likewise, Esther was raised by hee Uncle Mordecai. The Word says to care for orphans and widows and other needy people. From what I can tell Veronica Brown is none of those things. The church has n been co-opted by the 13 billion $ adoption industry thinking there is a spiritual imperative to adopt. There is not. Read your bible.

lorieve - 8/15/2013 1:35 PM
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To become an adoptee first you must get a "divorce " from your first family. No matter how successful the adoption is there is always pain involved. Adoption wounds and leaves scars. Adoption by non family members should only be as an absolute last resort. Veronica Brown has a loving and able biological family. Why put her thru a lifetime of pain when it isn't absolutely necessary?

MBMcD - 8/15/2013 9:41 AM
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I am an adoptee and have wonderful parents that raised me from birth, supported me, provided for me, and love me. I also know my biological parents, and am so thankful that they gave me the life I have although it was a hard decision - it was the right one made in my best interest. I agree that Veronica should be returned to South Carolina to her LEGAL parents. At this point Brown is running, and running, and hiding. Law abiding and good standing citizens do not have to hide. He is running from the inevitable. Mary Fallin should honor the expedition orders from South Carolina. Brown and the Cherokee Nation need to honor the rulings of the courts, and do what is right and lawful. Veronica is adopted. She has legal parents that she is being held from unlawfully. I hope Brown steps up and acts like an adult sooner than later. Everyone should be involved with the child's life, and the sooner he can act in her best interest the sooner they can all start to heal. Praying for the childs safe and swift return to her loving parents in South Carolina. www.saveveronica.org, https://www.facebook.com/SaveVeronicaRose
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