i think its mighty ignorant of anyone to say what they think simply because none of you know the back story of jake!!! you listen to the media and you form your opinions which your entitled to sure but what is the purpose in even saying anything when you arent going to do anything about it!! im not trying to justify what my brother did but as his sister i know the truth and the underlyin pain thats imbedded deep within this whole devestating matter!!! nothing anyone can do or say will change what has already happened so why not try putting all this time and effort into doing something may help prevent or help someone in the future who may need help or to avoid things like this happening... all i can say is that judgement is not for the people that is up to god and god only!!!!! take a long look at yourselfs! i just wish all the hype could be turned into something positive!! all i know is i know how it feels to wanna let go when youve lost life as you klnow it and your suddenly alone with no help and your lost!!! ive been there im still there!! without the people who support me i couldnt tell you where id be!!! all i know is justice will never be served because when someone you love is taken from you nothing no one can do will ever ever bring them back!!! thats the harsh reality sooo stop worrying about the people who are gone and make a damn difference otherwise shut the hell up!!! god has controlll

First off WATCHDOG! Watch who u calling a idiot... 2nd nothing I posted was about anything u said with yo disrespectful a$$! Pirate made a comment to compare black/white bonds! So before you fix your fingers to disrespect me again have your facts straights & by ur post ur the idiot....ur a racist as well, I read your comments from other articles. Like the one about the babies out North will soon b born with 3 legs! I didnt even take the time to read the rest of ur comment because im sure its full of BS as always! Ur a flopper & u have no clur what ur true feelings r! U claim to have black grandchildren..BS! Ur Native American..BS! Get a life & may God bless soul..& like I said there's no need to compare anything! Dang demons! This is my last post on here tol they tame u ignorant beast

Once again the idiots reign on this site, I wasn't making a comparison to how many whites and blacks are in jail or have bond, I was just addressing the fact that some want to say these two murderers have bond because they are white, it isn't true as you can see. The reason Tyrone Woodfork didn't get a bond was because he had a rap sheet a mile long, these two didn't have other crimes in the record, the reason Terrico Bethel didn't get bond was the same reason and for his protection, if he got out of jail, he would be a dead man just like Allen Shields, I am pretty sure he doesn't want to be out until after his trial if he is proven innocent. So before you start saying we need to get the facts, how about you get the facts yourself, you sound kind of un-informed. Race shouldn't matter when crimes have been committed, no murderer, rapist or child molester should be given bond because they pose a threat to the public, but the issue of bonds is in the hands of our incompetent judges, the same ones who let convicted pedophiles and murderers out to walk the streets everyday, so getting pissy and using race to explain their actions is totally out of line, only they know why they are sympathetic to monsters, but don't blame the public for what these judges do, I haven't seen any hoards of white people protesting the bonding or lack of bonding or even the speed at which the police arrest criminals, so the public obviously don't give a crap if these pukes get bond or not, any of them regardless of color.

There's no need to see which race has the most bonds! Its ignorant to think thats going to solve the problem! It seems some of u want to pretend that just because u sugar coat your commemts with they should have no bond that we dont read the rest of your comment. Your upset that they express that they feel a injustice as black people but its ok for u to express you feel a injustice as white people! In my opinion I THINK ITS ALL STUPID & ALL MURDERERS BLACK/WHITE SHOULD FACE THE SAME PUNISHMENT & everyone black/white should rejoice their family has one less demon to worry about!

Oh my goodness! You people never stop or read the full article before posting comments! The point of the protest is there should b no bond for these men! Rrad the article & leave out the words black/white because in all honesty its its not relavent. The man how killed Nancy S has NO BOND! The Bethal dude has NO BOND! Murder is murder so if there's no bond for one then there should b NO BOND FOR ALL! Thats the point people! & you better believe black/ white as a human I'd march/protest for any of these victim & families if their murderer had a chance to make bond. Get off the black/white crap already & remember we are HUMAN first! Justice for all, not just white or black but for ALL! People can b so shallow & ignorant & we're focusing on the wrong things! R children dont stand.a chance being raised by such stupidity!

They shouldn't have a bond, but this crap about it being based on their being white is really stupid, there are at this time 31 suspected murderers in Tulsa County, all 31 have bail bonds, 21 are black, 10 are white, but ALL are given bail bonds options.... No judge bases the availability of a bail bond on race...and seldom on the seriousness of the crime, and before someone says there are more blacks in jail than white because of racism, don't, if you really believe some cops are going to watch a white guy shoot and rob someone and just let him go because he is white, but arrests the black shooter and robber you are bat s**t crazy,and tripping, it don't happen dumba**! So lets all just shut the hell up if all we are going to do is lie and make up crap, OK?

I agree with Clindsey,There is NEVER an organized protest or big hype when it is a black on black shooting.Furthermore-these two should NOT be bonded out,but they also didn't rape and kill an elderly woman.The way the media works is simple-hype.If it is blacks killing whites-just plain old murder-white on black-hate crime..Double standard. I think all this time of affirmative action has been overplayed for a long time now.I didn't,my parents didn't,and my grandparents didn't have slaves-enough is enough-it's time to start treating blacks and whites equally!I would like to see just once,Al Sharpton,and Jesse Jackson,and the black panthers go to north tulsa and raise hell when a black shoots another black.

ANYONE who poses a continued threat to society should not be given bond....right now the black community has a lot of sympathy and support from non blacks, if they continue to march and threaten a race war, they will lose that, I don't know if they care, but just saying, most people in Tulsa are aware of the number of crimes committed by blacks, and the number committed by whites, however I don't see how anyone who is half sane could support these two men after they tricked and shot that many people to death, while I understand how Jake England could have hated the person who killed his dad, he made the decision to go out and kill a lot of people who didn't have anything to do with his dads death, no support for that, sorry. We have got to stop looking at crime through a racial lens, I don't care how rich or poor, how hard your life is or who you lost, you have no excuse for killing anyone in cold blood, period. A wise man once said, "when you refuse to forgive, you destroy the bridge over which you yourself may one day have to pass"...

would also like for someone at the news station to do a list of blacks and whites that have bond and no bond.....for various crimes......i think the black community would be supprised at what the list shows. would almost bet the house that blacks have more with bond.....for more violent crimes....than whites

killers/rapist/molesters should not have any bond. i am a whitie and i don't think race had anything to do with this(my opinion).....revenge maybe but, not race. we'll never know if they would have done the same thing to whites if a white had killed his dad. that being said, i think they would've...you can tell they had things going on in the head and somehting was going to happen(again, my opinion). these people are fueling the fire in something thta is going to explode soon....then we'll see who the real backers are. as soon as the s$%$$%$t hits the fan, these people will be nowhere to be found. hope it is all worth it.......