Following Portland shooting, gun advocate wants to open carry at mall

Gun advocates say they want to carry their guns at local malls to protect themselves from this happening here.

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Tinkersgirl - 12/14/2012 4:32 AM
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And here I am because in the year of 1998, I was convitecd of possession of marijuana, I am banned from ever carrying a personal protection firearm for the rest of my life in the state of OK. Apparently if you are ever convicted of any drug offense, now matter how long ago your rights are terminated on carry permits..so I guess its just "shoot me, I smoked a lttle weed" I don't deserve protection...however, a theif can carry a burglar can carry...its sick..

Talbot - 12/13/2012 9:22 AM
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Disgruntled, the mall didn't hold up their end of the bargain. They didn't allow their patrons to defend themselves, and made no attempt to defend them. Those victims were left helpless because of the mall's irresponsible policy. The man who dropped his gun was guilty of negligence, and he was held responsible for it. The management of that mall took actions that contributed to the deaths of innocent people, and they aren't being held responsible. We all have the right to choose, and we should all have to face the consequences of those choices. As for minor insults resulting in gunfights, I couldn't disagree more. You're describing gun owners as if they were unstable lunatics barely able to control some murderous instinct. If someone jostled or insulted you, would you brutally attack them? Gun owners are people, just like you. Though I think you're dead wrong, I appreciate what seems to be a fairly thoughtful comment. I hope we can discuss more!

Disgruntled - 12/13/2012 8:47 AM
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Kacie I agree with you 100%, and Talbot, you need to rethink. The open carry law is fine, but each business owner has the right to choose whether or not to allow weapons in their business. And, I believe that owners who do not allow weapons are smart. How many people are going to bring their children to the mall, theater, etc., if they know people are openly carrying weapons? In this day and age, all it would take is someone to jostle a person or throw an insult, and a gunfight could erupt in a very crowded place. Prosecute the management of the mall? They provided the service they were supposed to: a place for people to shop. It is not their fault that some nut brought a gun in unbeknownst to them. Business owners can't control the actions of a 3rd person, but they can try to keep damage to a minimum by not allowing open carry. I mean, right here in Tulsa, a 70 year old man carried a gun into a hospital for a doctors appointment, even though the sign clearly stated that guns were not allowed. He dropped the gun, it went off and narrowly missed oxygen tanks. If he had hit the tanks, would it have been the hospitals fault for the explosion and injuries that would have followed? People always want to blame someone else for what happens as a result of their actions. People need to stand up and take responsibility for what they do and quit blaming everyone else.

Talbot - 12/13/2012 8:30 AM
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Any business that does not allow patrons to carry guns is criminally irresponsible and should be held to account for the safety of anyone on the property. The management of the mall in Portland should be prosecuted for allowing this tragedy, and sued by the families of the victims.

KacieSP - 12/13/2012 4:19 AM
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People can protest all they want but, these business owners do not allow guns in crowded places like malls and theaters for good reason. the average person does not have the training that law enforcement has and does not go to the range twice a year to practice. do you really want someone who has not stepped foot on the range since they got their permit and is not trained to use their weapon in crowded places getting into a shoot out with someone in a crowded mall or theater? The number of by standers that could get hit would be high. A CCW is for self protection only and not for playing police or security and stopping a shooter. Just get out of the line of fire and take cover. But, these malls need to start allow security to carry. The Muskogee mall has had two shootings in the last five years. Unarmed state trained and licensed security in malls is a big liability waiting to happen.

CRTCNichols - 12/12/2012 10:18 PM
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"Police recommend doing these things if you are ever at a mall and someone starts firing a gun. First, take cover and hide as quickly as you can. Then try and get a good description of the gunman for police. Finally, be a good witness and make note of where you are and where the shots are coming from." The first recommendation pretty much rules out the other two.
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