Business incentives at heart of Vision2 debate

The debate over Vision2 and offering incentives to corporations is heating up after Wichita, Kansas tries to lure Spirit Aerosystems away from Tulsa.

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Gobigred - 10/25/2012 11:52 AM
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I would like to know if the reporter actually did any research at all for this article. The world headquarters for Spirit is in Wichita. The industrial bonds in Wichita are to grow the existing capacity of the work performed there. There is no new work with the company were a sight selection and bid would need to take place. Second the improvments for the Tulsa sight are for the airport facilities and growing the capabilities and capacity there. They can help The Bus facility, American, and Spirit but its more about bringing in new businesses. The councile man is right smaller businesses is where economic growth happens. If I were a on the Tulsa economice development councile I would like at trying to great a supplier city of small business, LLC, and smaller corps, near the airport that could help companies like Spirit, American, Nordam, BizJet, and the Bus facility compete with lowers costs and quicker turn around time on the raw materials and parts they need to make their customers happy.

Gladys Crump - 10/19/2012 11:15 PM
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The reason Witchita, Kan or some other city will "steal" our businesses has nothing to do with business or Vision 2, here are the 2010 crime stats for both cities, you can google it if you don't believe me. Witchita- Murder: 16 Tulsa- 54, Witchita- Rapes, 246 Tulsa- 252 Witchita- Robberies, 481 Tulsa- 1,381, Witchita Aggrivated Assaults- 2,283 Tulsa- 2,617. Witchita, Ks. Population estimate 2010: 382,368 Tulsa,Ok estimted population 2010: 383,625. Of course in 2011 Murder in Tulsa dropped to only 50, Rape went up to 266, Robberies were only 1,090 and Assaults went up to 2,555. These statistics is why no one is going to locate a business in Tulsa, and all the river development and sports arenas in the world is not going to change that, only one thing will bring business to Tulsa, and I have pretty much given up hope that will ever be seriously addressed,not as long as our city leaders can give us some shiny new toy to distract us from the real problems and keep feeding us lies about how crime has gone down.

frankwords - 10/18/2012 7:17 PM
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Bribing businesses with taxpayer money is a travesty. It's the 21st century version of Soviet 5-year plans and it never works. Evey town and state in the US is trying to pick winners in business in the name of economic development when the only thing that can do this successfully is the free market. A handful of policy wonks and planners cannot direct an economy efficiently or effectively. If I owned a business and my tax dollars were being used to bring in a competitor, I would sue based on the commerce clause and equal protection under the law. Government cannot favor one business over another. If cities and states want to attract businesses, they should stick to the only legitimate functions of government which are public safety and providing good roads. In Tulsa, they haven't even done that yet.
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