Secret uses for electronic cigarettes concerns officers

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Reported by: MirandaChristian
Updated: 12/11/2013 9:26 am Published: 12/10/2013 10:22 pm

Blunts, bongs and joints are considered an old way of getting high.

That's according to law enforcement.

FOX23 traveled to Mayes County and found out sometimes they don't know what "folks" are smoking because they're hiding it in, the open.

An ongoing problem just got worse.

Drug trafficking passes through Mayes County often and now there's more proof that users are hiding it in plain sight.
FOX23 spoke with Mayes County Capt. Rod Howell.

"Who would've thought?" Howell said.

Howell says people smoke weed with their e-cigarettes.

"Some are boiling it and extracting the concentrate from it," he said.

The odor goes undetected, and the high is more intense.

"They use it in a liquid form or a wax form," he said.

The trend has already spread across Mayes County. He and his staff found out about it through people they've arrested for recent drug busts.

"We haven't been able to prosecute them because we don't have the overwhelming evidence," Howell said.

It's added another ingredient to the growing drug problem deputies already struggle to control.

"I've been doing this 18 years. This is something I've never seen," Howell said.

He fears even trained drug dogs may have trouble detecting what's really being smoked.

He's concerned that when the problem becomes visible, it may already be too late.

Howell says the Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics is especially focusing attention on this problem -- as it continues to grow throughout the state.

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karlschneider - 12/12/2013 12:19 PM
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How wonderful that Howell and his gang of Gestapo moralists have eliminated all actual crime with actual victims up there in Mayes county and now they can concentrate on the scofflaws who dare to utilize a natural product made by God Herself.

kittkats - 12/12/2013 3:13 AM
3 Votes
Who really cares????? It should be legal, anyway. It would reduce crime, add revenue, heal people, and many more benefits. You know we can go on and on about this. There are plenty of things that are harmful that are legal, like junk food, alcohol, cigarettes, and a million other things. Just legalize and tax it already, and get over it because eventually the PEOPLE will win this war. For those of you who think its bad, and leads to other things. Just realize your wrong, those people will use what they want no matter what. I can see the benefits of marijuana and hemp and I'm not even a user of it. It is sad a lot of people just think its bad because its been illegal for so long. Too many sheeple not thinking outside the box. Its 2013, i think laws 100 years ago are a little outdated, don't you think? We have research to back up medical claims. Cannabis has been proven to had been used thousands of years ago.

Motomusman - 12/11/2013 9:37 PM
2 Votes
So FRANK how much did the cops, tobacco companies, and alcohol companies pay you to write this giant load of crap?

TFFD FireAce - 12/11/2013 9:32 PM
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I'm so glad they are focusing their attention on all the horrible pot sure would be a shame if they used some of that task force 'taxpayer' money on busting real drugs like meth, heroin, coke, pcp, wet...all of which have killed way more people than pot ever did. Wake up Oklahoma!!! The rest of the country is legalizing weed and this ridiculous state is still dumping tons of money into busting potheads. Someone please tell me why 75% of this country want it legal but its still not...I may be confused on how a democracy works but i'm pretty sure majority rules. Losing faith in this world and its leaders...ALL of them

Unwashed Mass - 12/11/2013 6:00 PM
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The reason the article is misleading is that it was spoon-fed from police Public Information Officers without any independent fact-checking. Letting the police write the news is the in-thing in broadcasting these days. Yes, it's fear-mongering and just downright misleading.

Stoned Gunman - 12/11/2013 3:39 PM
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Please let me educate most of you, since the article was wrong, as was the trusty law enforcement official. BHO or honey oil has been around since the 70's it's just known today by other names such as Dabs, shatter, wax, or concentrate. It can be made by flushing the plant with butane, a simple process which can be found online just about anywhere and uses common items so can be done in your home, it's smoked (not vaped) after the butanes been removed by a combination of heating, whipping and vacuuming for best results. This concentrate is sold in hundreds of dispensaries and is between 80-90% THC it also contains almost no impurites. It can be consumed in a variety of ways including the electronic devices mentioned above such as Cloud Vape, microG, Elipse, the list goes on and on. This is 2013 at what point will you people quit believing the garbage the media and law enforcement feed you? Not once in 3000 years of documented history has anyone died from cannabis use and the only people still hanging on to prohibition are the ones with a vested interest in keeping it going such as private prisons, law enforcement, court system.......

Mayor Maynot - 12/11/2013 3:29 PM
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Thanx Frank good post. More comedy than laurel and hardy. E-cigs are becoming an item in some locations. I'm on the outside I'm looking in I can see through you see your true colors. Inside your ugly ugly like me.

Unwashed Mass - 12/11/2013 12:07 PM
2 Votes
Police departments all over the country are sounding the alarm over a problem that doesnt really exist. Given the circumstances, this might have been fueled by some tobacco industry donations to FOPs and unions.

danmaddux - 12/11/2013 11:01 AM
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as nannax8 said, this entire thing is driven by two sources. Tax revenue on cigarette sales and the tobacco companies losing customers. I do not condone the use of pot at all. it impairs your ability to function, just as drinking does. People who smoke pot are just as likely to get behind the wheel as drinkers do. However, this information from the media has nothing to do with my opinion; it has to do with taxes and sales of a product that is PROVEN to cause cancer. Really want to help people with your health plans Obama? Ban cigarettes! Leave the people who vape alone. Its harmless. And yes, the process to get pot into a form that will not toast your ecig would be extremely time consuming. Boiling it does not extract the THC, you have to steep with oil or alcohol first to get it into the water. Then getting it mixed into a glycol based compound would be another process that i am sure takes a lot of effort. What a waste of media coverage...

nannax8 - 12/11/2013 10:31 AM
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Seasoned officers (and newbies) should be able to recognize impaired when they see it without or without an odor. I knew a guy who used to dissolve his coccaine in nasal saline devices so by all means, let's all jump on the "OH MY GOSH, electronic cigarettes are evil and we must do something about it" bandwagon. Please, PLEASE educate yourself before you join the hype. First everyone complains about the health issues with first and second hand smoke and the amount of money it costs to deal with it. Then, someone develops an alternative that has no second hand smoke health issues and as of yet, no proven first hand smoke issues and numerous studies and personal testamonies indicating improved health over the use of traditional analog cigarettes. Results--decrease in tobacco sales, decrease in taxes collected and big tobacco company profits followed by tons of unsubstaniated claims and ridiculous tales and uneducated individuals wanting to ban (or better yet, place ridiculous regulations AND THEN TAXES) on the better alternative while all along, leaving the origial know health issue on the market. Seriously people, EDUCATION is a wonderful thing!!!!!
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